This podcast catches up with Kelly Waters-Radcliffe, R. Psych, who was previously employed as our family therapist and clinical supervisor at the Wilderness Treatment at Base Camp program.

Though Kelly spent a number of years away from the study of psychology, his journeys taught him a great deal about the human capacity for change and helped him deepen into his life’s passion: namely, helping to create movement in the lives of people who have for various reasons found themselves ‘stuck.’

Now a registered psychologist, Kelly has provided services to individuals, families and groups presenting with a variety of issues ranging from stress and depression to domestic violence, addiction and eating disorders. Kelly finds that the issues people bring to counseling ‘make sense’ as expressions of human needs. Therapy with Kelly then becomes about locating those needs and working with people to bring forth the inner resources to meet those needs in healthy ways. He is highly influenced by the work of Michael White and Narrative Therapy and has, most recently, become interested in practices of focused attention, such as found in clinical hypnosis and guided meditation, as a way of connecting with inner means for overcoming problems.


5:30 What brought Kelly into the helping profession
9:00 A bit about the Base Camp program
12:00 Kelly’s thoughts on a “shared journey” or “parallel process”
16:00 The core philosophical foundations of the program
22:30 Feedback informed treatment and the power dynamic of being a helping professional
25:50 Being the biographers of client’s lives
27:50 Kelly discusses the DSM and the issues with labelling and diagnosis
29:30 What makes a “super youth worker”
32:00 Kelly discusses a “successful” client
35:30 The influence of narrative therapy on Kelly’s professional growth and philosophy
 37:15 Reality is subjective
40:00 Kelly discusses the practicality of nonviolent communication and taking a stand against trauma and violence
46:00 All violence starts with language
48:20 Kelly’s advice to young professionals
53:30 How to overhaul or redesign a program
58:00 How the feedback process can be scary
60:30 Kelly discusses progress monitoring and how it leads to better treatment plans
64:00 Goals are power laden and risky
68:00 A huge obstacle in family therapy, making the invisible visible.